Transcript Ep. 556: How Heated Sidebars During the SBF Trial Could Impact the Jury’s Decision

Ari Redbord, Global Head of Policy at TRM Labs, discusses why Caroline Ellison’s testimony has been the most critical in the case so far, why sidebars in the courtroom can get heated, and whether SBF

Ari Redbord:

I sympathize with the defense here. This is an uphill fight to begin with. There are millions of pages of documents, but really, I mean, you have three really strong cooperators here who were in the inner circle, who knew what were going on day to day and have been very, very credible. So I think the battle here was very, very difficult to begin with and it remains that way still.

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Today's guest is Ari Redbord, Global Head of Policy at TRM Labs. Welcome, Ari.

Ari Redbord:

Hey Laura, thank you so much for having me. Great to be on the show.

Laura Shin:

So, Ari and I were just discussing this before we started recording. And it's the fact that I have been spending all my days in the courtroom and I've literally just run from there. And for the first time, probably ever in the history of the show, have not really written a script. So Ari, I remember that you used to be a prosecutor and unfortunately I don't know the title because I did not have a chance to fill that in. So you are a former prosecutor and I was curious for your takeaways on the SBF criminal trial so far.

Ari Redbord: