Transcript Episode 554: SBF’s Lawyers Could Be Annoying the Judge. How Might That Impact the Trial?

Sam Enzer, partner at Cahill Gordon & Reindel, and Brian Klein, partner at Waymaker, discuss the strategies that the defense and prosecution appear to be using, and why the testimonies from FTX softwa

Brian Klein:

I think that you're getting right into the peeking behind the curtain, seeing what's happened there. They're telling you what they said and what they saw and what they did. And there are just going to be a number of them in a row. So they started with a smaller one, I think, to build to the credibility of each one as they go along. Right? They do Yedidia first, then they do Wang, and now they're going to Ellison. So I think that's intentional. It's like putting these stepping or these stones in place to build it up, this foundation. And so I think it's a great... That's a smart strategy on the government's part.

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Today's topic is the ongoing criminal trial of Sam Bankman-Fried. Here to discuss are Sam Enzer, partner at Cahill Gordon and Reindell, and Brian Klein, partner at Waymaker. Welcome, Sam and Brian.

Sam Enzer:

Thanks for having us on, Laura.

Brian Klein:

Thank you, Laura, for inviting us on.

Laura Shin:

So you were both recent guests, so I'm not gonna go into your backgrounds first, but to help people differentiate your voices, Sam, why don't you start by telling us what your top takeaway is so far from the trial?

Sam Enzer: